If you ask me, Myorp are right. I will not make excuses for any of the admins, but there has been serious lack of communication between our groups, which has resulted in a lot of things neglected that should have been attended to promptly.

This community is for people who want to discuss being multiple. You can talk about how you are multiple, learn from others how they are multiple similarly or differently from you, get advice or examples that might benefit your system. All without worrying about whether you are doing it "right" or having to live up to anyone else's standards. We're here to discuss being multiple, not to get into endless and useless arguments.

The bullying has to stop, the snarking has to stop, and the dropping of little innocent-seeming phrases that are really meant to put others on the defensive and cause lengthy and fruitless argument. All of that, out.

If you can't discuss multiplicity -- be it natural multiplicity, otherkin, soulbonding/fictives, MPD/DID, whatever -- in a courteous, civilized manner, you will be banned. God knows I don't like to be a hard ass about this stuff, but this has gone far enough.

I'm getting complaints from people who simply don't feel they can write about their experiences in this community. My guess is that there are plenty of others who have left quietly because they don't feel they belong in the community as it is now.

I am meeting with both the Fenners and Amorpha this evening to discuss exactly who, what and how.

Hello, I am Hikaru, current fronter of the Yukizaku system. We've had a lot of trouble in the past figuring out if we were Median or Multiple, but the other day we realized that we were definitely Multiple. Or should I say, I realized it, as I had become the only fronter with no co-conscious activity. Since then, I've had Sora and Yuuki come to the front a few times, but I'm the only consistent fronter at this time. These events caused me to realize how separate our thoughts really are, and how blurred they are when co-conscious. I intend to make a chart at some point reflecting how I've come to understand this system, but that's for later.

So I've rarely fronted until last night, typically we have either Sora or Yuuki fronting, but most of the time they are both co-fronting. Our numbers have varied over the years, but the current known to be here population is Me, Sora, Yuuki, and ???. One of the things that happened to day actually was the first encounter with ???, who is not named yet, as we haven't had much communication.

I doubt Yuuki will be posting any time soon, as they* had a panic attack recently and is still recovering, but Sora will probably post soon as they seem to be fine.

Anyways, this post is intended as an introduction post for our system, and I have no clue what else to say, so... Good Morning.

*"They" is being used here in the singular form in reference to the lack of gender, which is slightly more described in our journal.

I did get one good thing out of therapy....or, partly it was therapy.
I do think that I would have been better off, having gotten the information out of books. But I don't know, that's water under the bridge. Everyone who knows me, knows I feel therapy did me a great deal of harm.

But anyway. The one thing it did give me, was the notion that *just maybe* my memories were of things that had really happened, and not just a lot of evil sinfulness that I was making up because the devil had ahold of me....and yadda yadda, I'm sure you've heard the rest of *that* evangelical bullsh******t.

Later, when my stepdad was elderly and diabetic and in my mom's care, I saw some things re-enacted, and I knew for absolutely sure that no, I hadn't made it up or exaggerated it.

Meanwhile, though, I do think that the thought of 'maybe I'm not lying', kept me from suicide long enough to get to that point.

I know this sounds rather along the 'disordered' rather than 'empowered' line of thought....and what I would say to that, is that I think trauma-multis have every bit as much right to empower ourselves, as....well, anyone else. I would compare it to losing one's hearing in adulthood, and joining the deaf community as a fully empowered and whole person. (And I do know there are some rifts in the deaf community, just like there are in the multiple community. I'm just sayin', I feel like those rifts are pretty useless.)

I've been wondering lately whether these other people in my head are actual people or if they're just me being dissociative, and how to figure it out. My therapist refuses to entertain the possibility that they're actual people, so no help there. Can anyone think of some way to find out..? Or is this one of those "only you can tell" sorts of things?

-Sean

EDIT: Look, the therapist comment was just to say that I'm not getting any help from him. He does NOT affect the fact that I don't know whether I'm just dissociating or if they're real people, and this question would have probably been asked with or without him. I have a lot of issues to deal with, and I am not seeing him for multiplicity, it only comes up because I told him about it once and he asks about it if we run out of other things to talk about. He's even told me that it's okay if I don't believe him. His stance is that they are dissociation, not people, and that there is a reason why they are there, and that I need to ask them until they give me an answer other than "well, why are *you* here?" I disagree with him about the question, but I do not know what to think about whether they're dissociation-induced or real people. Some days I believe they're real, some days not. Today, for example, I do believe they are real and separate people and that I'm not even the first one who was here. Two days ago, I believed we were all the same person and that I was dissociating sometimes, and sometimes "I" even thought that while talking to others or while being someone else.

I appreciate all your comments, I really do, just please leave my therapist out of it, because he has very little to do with this question.

I have a new coming-out blog over on Blogspot - it's around coming out gay, but that's certainly not all there is to it. What it *is* about one hundred percent of the time, is individuality and the value of independent thought. I think (hope) it's also funny, at least part of the time.
Funny part of the time, thought-provoking all the time. (If it's not, then I'm doing something wrong.)


Pyraxis found the link for me, and it's

http://opinionsimnotentitledto.blogspot.com/


If anyone would like to give it a look-see, there it is.

I've been obsessing over it since I finally saw it a few days ago. I think everyone around me is getting sick of me going on about it.

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So the other day we were driving home from work, listening to one of our favorite radio stations and it goes to commercial. We weren't paying attention so we didn't tune away like we normally do and are we ever glad we didn't!!

I think it was the second commercial and the familiar voice of the spokesman for Central Bank, a local bank headquartered here in Jefferson City, Missouri.

He said something like this(imagine it being spoken in a slightly "down home" accent):

"Hello again folks! From time to time we here at Central Bank like to dig into the mailbag and see what our customers are saying, and recently we got this letter: 'Hi, my name's Steve and I have multiple personalities! We were wanting to know if its possible to set up a bank account for each one of us so we can manage our finances better?'

"Well Steve here at Central Bank we offer free checking services for all your needs(he talks about the checking features for a moment). So, whether you want separate accounts for bills and for recreation, or if you want an account for Stan, Samuel, Shirley, and James, remember, at Central Bank, we can take care of you!"


I was floored because I was expecting some kind of "punch-line" or some sort of weird intonation that made it clear that it was all just "cleverness" in advertising. But instead he finished it matter-of-factly and the whole thing felt very oddly like they had seriously had that happen and thought it made a good selling point for their free checking!

It is sort of part of a series of good simple commercials about how they can solve even somewhat obscure banking issues and I realize it likely was just a clever idea someone in marketing came up with, but the way it was presented and done made me extremely happy that there was nothing about the commercial that could really be considered prejudicial and also that we bank with them! :D

Tomorrow I think I am going to send them an email telling them how much we appreciate how cool they were to make a commercial like that and see if we can get an mp3 of it or something to share on here. I dunno what they'll say but maybe they'll appreciate the free advertising?

Heh. Anyway, thought some of you would appreciate an example of even a simple commercial that didn't show us in a negative or even "freakish" light... but rather just like any other group of customers :)

~Kent for Puzzles